Christian “Boo” Boucousis, CEO of Afterburner and former fighter pilot, joins Erica D’Eramo to discuss leadership lessons from the cockpit and what business leaders can learn from fighter pilot practices. The conversation explores systems thinking, the ORCA method, daily reflection, destination-driven leadership, and how leaders can stay focused on what they can control while adapting to what they cannot.
How Systems Thinking Transforms Leadership: A Conversation with Dr. Anthony Luévanos
On this episode of the Two Piers Podcast, host Erica D’Eramo is joined by Dr. Anthony Luévanos for a deep dive into systems thinking—what it is, why it matters, and how it can transform leadership, coaching, and organizational effectiveness. Drawing from his background in education, leadership development, and organizational systems, Dr. Luévanos brings a grounded and insightful perspective on leading in complexity.



